Gantz: ‘First, the hostages have to be returned. We’ll have a lifetime to battle Hamas.’

By Vered Weiss, World Israel News

During a meeting Saturday night with Defense Minister Yoav Gallant and fellow war cabinet minister Benny Gantz, released hostages urged the officials not to send IDF soldiers into the terror tunnels in Gaza.

The highlights of the conversation were broadcast on Channel 12 news and featured the freed hostages discussing their harrowing experiences in Gaza.

The highlights of the conversation were broadcast on Channel 12 news and featured the freed hostages discussing their harrowing experiences in Gaza.

甘茨:“首先,人质必须归还。”我们将用一生的时间来对抗哈马斯。

作者:Vered Weiss,《以色列世界新闻》

在周六晚上与国防部长约阿夫·加兰特和战时内阁部长本尼·甘茨举行的会议上,被释放的人质敦促官员不要将以色列国防军士兵派遣到加沙的恐怖隧道中。

谈话的要点在第 12 频道新闻中播出,获释的人质讨论了他们在加沙的悲惨经历。

“There’s no time. Every passing day is terrifying. You have no idea what kind of monsters we are dealing with. If they’re feeling threatened, they will use the captives.”

“They scared us that the IDF would use the Hannibal Directive on civilians, and therefore we were scared when the [IDF] bombings were close,” they continued.

They were so close that we begged them to take us [from the building in which we were held] into the tunnels [for safety], and at one stage they did.”

The released hostages emphasized that the tunnels were unsafe, “Don’t go into the tunnels. They are moving around in there in vast numbers. It’s a colossal danger to soldiers and to hostages.”

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没时间了。每一天的过去都令人恐惧。你不知道我们正在对付什么样的怪物。如果他们感到受到威胁,他们就会使用俘虏。”

“他们让我们害怕以色列国防军会对平民使用汉尼拔指令,因此当[以色列国防军]爆炸临近时我们感到害怕,”他们继续说道。

“他们离我们太近了,我们恳求他们把我们[从关押我们的大楼]带进隧道[为了安全],他们一度这么做了。”

被释放的人质强调隧道不安全,“不要进入隧道。他们在那里大量活动。这对士兵和人质来说是巨大的危险。”

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Gantz reassured them that the hostages were the first priority and said, “First, the hostages have to be returned. We’ll have a lifetime to battle Hamas.”

He responded concerning the goal of destroying Yahya Sinwar, the mastermind behind the October 7th massacre.

“It’s a long process. [Yahya] Sinwar has entered the pantheon of Islam, as the third warrior. And after him there will be others… But he’s not the story. The story is also to eliminate the idea.”

When asked about what

framework he would consider for further hostage releases, Gantz said, “There was no framework of ‘all for all’ [as in, all hostages freed in exchange for all Palestinian security prisoners].”

“There’s a leadership there that has no consideration for its civilians. Its goal is to break Israeli society. I’m prepared to give a lot, but I won’t discuss it publicly.”

甘茨向他们保证,人质是首要任务,并说:“首先,人质必须被送回。我们将用一生的时间来对抗哈马斯。”

他回应了摧毁 10 月 7 日大屠杀幕后策划者叶海亚·辛瓦尔 (Yahya Sinwar) 的目标。

“这是一个漫长的过程。 [叶海亚]辛瓦尔作为第三位战士进入了伊斯兰教的万神殿。在他之后还会有其他人……但他不是故事。这个故事也是为了消除这个想法。”

当被问及他将考虑采取什么框架来进一步释放人质时,甘茨说,“不存在‘一切为了所有人’的框架[例如,释放所有人质以换取所有巴勒斯坦安全囚犯]。”

“那里的领导层不考虑平民。其目标是破坏以色列社会。我准备付出很多,但我不会公开讨论。”